In its most recent episode, the German science podcast “Exzellent erklärt – Spitzenforschung für alle” features the research of the Cluster of Excellence 3D Matter Made to Order (3DMM2O). In the episode, moderator Larissa Vassilian talks to Cluster Spokesperson and Principal Investigator Jochen Wittbrodt and his doctoral researcher Christina Schlagheck as well as Principal Investigator Peter Gumbsch in order to learn more about the Cluster research in the area of Organoids (Thrust C3) and Metamaterials (Thrust C2).